In episode 6, Leon sticks up for LA before telling us about his start in graffiti and we bond over 90’s underground hip-hop. He tells us about college in Arcata and his move to SF. He talks about his self-published children’s book that launched his art career, and the one class he took at the Academy of Art. He tells us about an interesting collaboration between himself and Mike Gallegos. We discuss a couple of paintings of his and try to figure out what the heck they mean! In the process we discuss symbolism and clarity of intent in painting. Sergio gets us into a discussion about the controversial removal of a Waterhouse from a museum. We end the podcast by talking about what media we consume while painting. This was a chill episode, relaxing conversation that flowed easily. Enjoy!