Ozi Magana joins us to talk about how Sergio and him first met through a mutual friend(did it live up to the hype?), his take on art school, his “beef” with Joshua Mays, his art battle with Nate Van Dyke, and failed battle attempt with Henry Lewis. He tells us how he started showing his art, San Mateo & EPA, and what he’s up to now. We also talk about art fame, where our screen names come from, and someone named Mike Garcia gets shouted out a lot. Ozi then talks about why he hates the Mona Lisa which leads to a discussion about his painting, “Healer Of Worlds.” We find out Josh hates alcohol markers. We finish by discussing movies and boy stuff. We here at Waiting To Dry endorse nothing that was said by our guest. We love you, Joshua Mays.
Joshua Mays invited us into his home in Oakland to talk about his ideas for a live/work exhibition space, sci-fi, sci-reality, and getting our stories across as artists. He breaks down his Vision and Value concept which is a very interesting way for artists to think about their worth. We make some short detours into hip-hop (and Josh even “freestyles”?), crows being smart, Gunpla, and other things before getting into art business-relevant topics like money flow, the Internet, and more. We break down his painting, “Beacon Frequency Reader.” After that he tells about the artist Tatyana Fazlalizadeh to make a point about Vision vs. Value. We finish by talking about the Red Bull Music Academy and the value that brands could bring by collaborating with artists. We really enjoyed listening to what he had to say and we know you will too.
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Judson Monroe joins to talk about how Sergio and him met, the difference between academies and ateliers, studying in Florence, Marc Dalessio, New Orleans, why the West Coast is the best coast, and Italian art collectors. Is Iran the next big art market? Is contemporary art becoming a meritocracy? Which group shows are worth doing? We discuss it! Also, hacky concepts, and doing commissions. We talk about Judson’s painting and he has a cool story to tell about it. Judson then tells us about how Sean Cheetham influenced him in an interesting way. We discuss if the fashion world can teach us about marketing. Check out his wife’s website www.realistartresource.com.
In episode 7, we waste no time talking (light) trash about the Academy of Art before we delve into John Wentz’s beginnings. We talk about what comic book characters suck, shedding the art-school mentality, the art inherent in all disciplines, his upcoming trip to Paris, and the impact of social media on professional artists. We get into why he paints “unfinished” portraits and what cave paintings have to do with them. We discuss one of his paintings he created from riding the NYC subways which leads to a discussion about human empathy, his titles, and process vs. outcome. We shout out his lady Delphyne, then go into a tangent about beliefs, and Sergio gets compared to Sam Harris. We answer a couple of questions at the end, and then tell you to fuck off. Sorry for the audio quality.
In episode 6, Leon sticks up for LA before telling us about his start in graffiti and we bond over 90’s underground hip-hop. He tells us about college in Arcata and his move to SF. He talks about his self-published children’s book that launched his art career, and the one class he took at the Academy of Art. He tells us about an interesting collaboration between himself and Mike Gallegos. We discuss a couple of paintings of his and try to figure out what the heck they mean! In the process we discuss symbolism and clarity of intent in painting. Sergio gets us into a discussion about the controversial removal of a Waterhouse from a museum. We end the podcast by talking about what media we consume while painting. This was a chill episode, relaxing conversation that flowed easily. Enjoy!
In episode 5, Nate Van Dyke talks to us about getting started as a pro artist, El Coro, doing commissions, “Fuck you” prices, Jon Wayshak, not going to art school, and social media. We get deep into the assault he was a victim of in December, and what happened to his 11×17 scanner. We talk about the animals in his art, polar bears, what Nate had to do with Josh and MJ’s first date, his work for Jay-Z and PBR, and getting credit. We also talk about Jeremy Fish and meeting your art heroes who turn out to be cool. We discuss the SF artist community and end with Nate giving some words to the wise. No feelings were hurt in the recording of this episode.
In episode 4, Monty Guy joins us to talk about getting kicked out of art school, meeting The Fat Jew, going back home to B’Field and his return to the Bay Area. He talks about the concept behind his paintings of tattooed subjects. We learn about Monty’s parents, and the shocking truth about his name. We dive deep into Sergio’s Facebook controversy he caused a couple of weeks ago and get Josh and Monty’s takes. Spoiler alert: they no like art competitions. We discuss Chuck Close’s sexual misconduct allegations and Monty gets a lil’ spicy. We finish with Monty giving us a nice little story about out-running the police. Love him. Hate him. Do both. It’s Monty.
In our third episode, we finally have our first Caucasian guest, Jason Avery! We talk about the impact of the fires, growing up in the Midwest, and what inspired him to move west. After a brief detour into Tongan food, we get into a lengthy discussion about his art. How he has always been creating, his earliest influences, Bob Ross, school, and how lame his college was except for one important thing. We talk pretty much the rest of the time about how and why he paints what he does, and what he is going after when he creates a painting.There were a lot of interesting ideas and thoughtful philosophies dissected on this episode. We had a great time with Jason, and the stuff we talked about before and after could have been a podcast itself. Pretty deep discussion. Next time? More fart jokes.
In our second episode, we welcome our first guest ever, Josh’s main squeeze MJ Lindo(@mjlindo)! We talk about our visits to the Legion of Honor to see the Klimt/Rodin show, and our strengths and weaknesses when it comes to photoshoots. We then talk to our guest MJ about where she grew up, how she started with art, how her style evolved, and why Fabio might be her dream model! We get into Instagram and how it’s both amazing and frustrating. We talk about why MJ loves witches and we maybe inadvertently start her Harry Potter podcast… We talk about her painting, “Descanso” and meander off into different topics from there. We finish off by talking about a scumbag in the Nashville area that Sergio came across in his Facebook feed.
Find Sergio at @mainloop and Joshua at @joshuathelawyer on Instagram.
In our very first episode, we talk about our origin stories(and how they are almost parallel), how our parents possibly wanted us to do anything else, who’s brothers are better at graffiti, how Josh doesn’t know anyone’s name, our art heroes, and we talk about a painting Sergio has on the easel. We also learned that we need to stop saying “umm” and “like” so much.