Best of Waiting To Dry, Vol. 1: The First 15 Episodes

Hey guys. We put together this Best-Of show to help promote the show. Here are some moments that stand out, whether they are funny or insightful, that showcase what the podcast is about. If you’re a fan of the show and want an easy way to share it with your friends you can link them to this episode! If you’ve been a guest on our show and want to share a snippet, you can also link them to the part in this show that you appear. Thanks so much if you share this! We’re really psyched to see this show keep growing and you can help us out a lot with your share. Thanks to all of our guests, whose stories and insights have made this show so fun to do!

Intro: Nate Van Dyke Hates Waiting To Dry

0:01:07 Episode 1: Joshua Lawyer and Sergio Lopez

0:06:00 Episode 2: MJ Lindo

0:09:00 Episode 3: Jason Avery

0:21:56 Episode 4: Monty Guy

0:25:57 Episode 5: Nate Van Dyke

0:43:53 Episode 6: Leon Loucheur

0:47:36 Episode 7: John Wentz

0:58:34 Episode 8: Judson Monroe

1:10:42 Episode 9: Joshua Mays

1:17:29 Episode 10: Ozi Magana

1:26:51 Episode 11: Glenn Arthur

1:36:43 Episode 12: Joshua Lawyer and Sergio Lopez

1:42:00 Episode 13: Aaron Nagel

1:49:19 Episode 14: Emilio Villalba

1:55:11 Episode 15: Joshua Lawyer and Sergio Lopez

Outro: Ozi Magana Hates Waiting To Dry

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#28: Top 5, Dead Or Alive


It’s a head-exploder of an episode! Sergio went up to the Avenue of The Giants to gather ref’ while Josh stayed home to work on moving MJ’s studio. We talk about the upcoming Miyazaki art show, not feeling the pressure to paint, Instagram Live, our top 5 artists, why people buy shit they don’t need, selling prints, TV and movie talk(and why we hate sitcoms), the dynamic between Josh and MJ, middle names, why Craiglist is better than Instagram, and why Flickr should make a comeback. Lots of tangents but it’s a good fun episode to get to know your hosts better.
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#27: Agnieszka Pilat, Mecha-Hustler.


Agnieszka Pilat, Mecha-Hustler.

Agnieszka Pilat! We get into some art bizness! She talks to us how she came straight to San Francisco from Poland and studied at the Academy of Art, talent vs hard work, how social media can motivate artists, all about her #disrupt series, her painting “Amazing Grace,” networking to bypass galleries, the meaning of life, and she answers a ton of listener questions from Instagram! She tells us how she cultivates relationships with her collectors to grow her career, Yutta and Gutta’s plans to take over the art world, and what her next series might be! There was a lot of great info for artists trying to make a living in this episode, and we both picked up a lot of tips to think about! We are sure you will too, so show some love and let us know what you learn in the reviews section of your favorite listening platform!
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#26 Brett Crawford “Learn How To Get Your Feelings Hurt”


Brett Crawford came up from San Clemente for his 111 Minna Gallery show and hung out with us at Monty Guy’s studio to record this podcast! He tells us the story of a mural near WonderlandSF gallery before getting deep into his story about coming up from being a drug-addict 18-year felon to turning his life around via art. He tells us about scoring a job at a print shop and used samples to make friends in the art scene, viewing the Choe Show, and his views on life and death. We hear the story behind his painting featuring Geoffrey The Giraffe called “Taking Geoffrey Home,” his “Fuck Cancer” tag, and more. We hear his side of the infamous “Pretentious C” story (fun fact: he was the other guy Josh was talking to!) and how he made a bad first impression at Thinkspace Gallery. We end with some good advice about how to handle rejection and fantasizing to manifest the reality you want. We were really inspired by his story of his drive to redeem himself and you will be too. His 111 Minna show opens Friday July 6th, 2018.

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#25: Eliza Ivanova “Punchy Dreams”

We pay a visit to Eliza Ivanova and she talks with us about how she developed her sketching style, studying in her home country of Bulgaria, the program Toon Boom, balancing working at Pixar with her personal art, sketchbook talk, and we end up talking more about process and materials than we ever have! We also talk about her “crab kids”, spirit-crushing teachers, her online haters(fun fact: both Josh and Eliza have both been called pretentious C’s!), how dreams can generate ideas(and violence), and discussing illustrative vs. non-narrative work. Check out her book, Raw Material, Vol. 1, and keep an eye out for Vol. 2 when it comes out!

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#24 Jason Avery “You And Uglow?”

Our first ever returning guest! Jason Avery drops by to talk to us about a new spiritual direction he wants to go with his art, teaching himself sculpting(warning to sculptors: we don’t know shit!), what Warhol would do with social media, and slowing down. Sergio’s mic goes out after about an hour or so(will anyone really notice?) so we take a break to fix it, then switch gears and talk about galleries vs. Instagram to gain collectors, the value we put on our own art, and then we get into a good debate about technique vs. idea in art, and artists creating their own visual language. 3 artists who don’t agree on everything make for a much more fascinating conversation than an agreement-fest. We hope you enjoy the direction this episode takes! Rate and review us on iTunes or your favorite listening platform.

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#23 Melanie Alves “Octopus Salad”


On a windy SF day, Melanie Alves invites us to her studio talk about the expectations of artists and galleries, being a mother in San Francisco, Portuguese food, using her art for social issues, her pillow project that tackles womens issues, people wanting to touch your art, and how having children can make you more creative. We talk about her painting “China Girl” and the story of the woman who inspired it. We also talk about capturing farts, a terrible app-for-children idea, and getting judged as a person for your art. Melanie tells us about her second-grader hustle, censoring yourself, Portuguese words, and how she sent a poop picture to her friends. Melanie’s very talented in many mediums and very fun to talk to. Enjoy and give us a good rating on your favorite platform if you like it!

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#22: Chris Leib “Why Humans Paint With Whiskers”


Road trip! Waiting To Dry invades Chris Leib’s house for the weekend, and record a podcast during their stay. Chris talks to us about his upcoming move to Berlin, the Carmel art scene, the idea behind his astronaut and ape paintings, his beginnings as an artist, the book “Why Cats Paint,” “Hippasnortalafuguss,” mystery in narrative, painting around people, using walrus whiskers to paint, that guy who paints blue dogs, and getting ideas from dreams. We talk about Chris’s painting on the easel (that the hosts ADORE) and explore the idea and techniques behind it. We finish with talking about pseudonyms for commissions and give birth to “Dragonslayer!” So many laughs to be had; Chris is a great artist, person, and fit for our show. Enjoy and please give us a good rating on your favorite platform if you liked this episode. Thanks!

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#21: Amandalynn “The Friendliest Wall-Pimp”


We have muralist Amanda Lynn over and we get all up in her mural bizness! We talk about trying to get us into doing murals, her “wall-bitches,” doing commercial murals vs for yourself, our upcoming group show we’re all in, sleep habits, spirituality, questions we get on social media, and going chemical-free. We talk about her painting “Lullabye” as well as an installation she made. We talk about art fandom and Josh’s resistance to commissions before we wrap it up. Fun episode; a good mix of humor and light-hearted chat mixed into genuine art talk. Give it a listen and rate it on your favorite platform if you like it.

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Waiting To Dry, Episode 20: “Conan The Librarian” Meeting Adam Caldwell


Adam Caldwell has us over to his studio to tell us about why he likes teaching beginner students, moving from Maine to the Bay Area, “The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction,” subject genders in paintings, the relevance of painting in 2018, and handling criticism. We talk about a painting in his studio in progress which leads to talking about ways to create new compositions, nostalgia, and other things. Josh finishes the show sans-Sergio with Adam and they talk about gallery shows, taking chances with paintings, researching ideas, political activism and the social climate before wrapping it up. One of the more serious episodes of late but never too heavy. It was great for the both of us to meet him. Look up his upcoming Talon Gallery show in Portland!

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