#22: Chris Leib “Why Humans Paint With Whiskers”


Road trip! Waiting To Dry invades Chris Leib’s house for the weekend, and record a podcast during their stay. Chris talks to us about his upcoming move to Berlin, the Carmel art scene, the idea behind his astronaut and ape paintings, his beginnings as an artist, the book “Why Cats Paint,” “Hippasnortalafuguss,” mystery in narrative, painting around people, using walrus whiskers to paint, that guy who paints blue dogs, and getting ideas from dreams. We talk about Chris’s painting on the easel (that the hosts ADORE) and explore the idea and techniques behind it. We finish with talking about pseudonyms for commissions and give birth to “Dragonslayer!” So many laughs to be had; Chris is a great artist, person, and fit for our show. Enjoy and please give us a good rating on your favorite platform if you liked this episode. Thanks!

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#21: Amandalynn “The Friendliest Wall-Pimp”


We have muralist Amanda Lynn over and we get all up in her mural bizness! We talk about trying to get us into doing murals, her “wall-bitches,” doing commercial murals vs for yourself, our upcoming group show we’re all in, sleep habits, spirituality, questions we get on social media, and going chemical-free. We talk about her painting “Lullabye” as well as an installation she made. We talk about art fandom and Josh’s resistance to commissions before we wrap it up. Fun episode; a good mix of humor and light-hearted chat mixed into genuine art talk. Give it a listen and rate it on your favorite platform if you like it.

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#20: Adam Caldwell “Conan The Librarian”


Adam Caldwell has us over to his studio to tell us about why he likes teaching beginner students, moving from Maine to the Bay Area, “The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction,” subject genders in paintings, the relevance of painting in 2018, and handling criticism. We talk about a painting in his studio in progress which leads to talking about ways to create new compositions, nostalgia, and other things. Josh finishes the show sans-Sergio with Adam and they talk about gallery shows, taking chances with paintings, researching ideas, political activism and the social climate before wrapping it up. One of the more serious episodes of late but never too heavy. It was great for the both of us to meet him. Look up his upcoming Talon Gallery show in Portland!

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#19: “The Starving Artist Diet”


The first episode with ya boyz together in 4 weeks! We start off by recapping Sergio’s plein air event in Atlanta, then we talk about the episodes Josh did with Steve Kim and Felicia Gabaldon and what Sergio thought of them. We talk John Krasinski, Donald Glover, Alex Jones, and Cobra Kai amongst other things. We talk about sketchbook habits, then recap our previous weekends and trash the BS parts of the Santa Rosa art scene amongst other things before discussing an altercation Josh had at his WonderlandSF reception. We talk more about Felicia end with a brief discussion of cultural appropriation. Please rate and review us on iTunes!

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#18: Carole Gray-Weihman “Rosemary of Palette Knives”


Judson Monroe joins Sergio Lopez at Carole Gray-Weihman’s Petaluma studio to talk about their passion for plein air events, painting in the Southwest, unscrupulous galleries, becoming a colorist with the Hensche school, Quang Ho’s unconscious competence, Larry Moore’s book Fishing For Elephants, good and bad students, studying with the Egelis, her massive color palette, Antonio Mancini, and palette knives. We discuss a couple of paintings and she tells us a story about a harrowing experience during a plein air event. Find Carole at @plein_air_liaison on IG and see her work at Authentique Gallery in St. George UT.

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#17: Felicia Gabaldon “Drunk Brunch!”

Join us (Joshua Lawyer, Mj Lindo and Felicia Gabaldon) as we stumble though this very clumsy conversation! Full off of pancakes and mimosas, we seem to start down a road where we discuss relevant topics that apply to an art podcast, before taking a hard right turn down a dark alley that only leads to confusion and nervous laughter. So please enjoy the brief moments of sunlight before we quickly bring you back to a disorienting darkness as dark as gouache black on an un-primed wood panel! If the description of this podcast confuses you…Hold on to your seats cause you ain’t heard nothing YET!

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#16: Steve Kim “Road Trip!”

Steve Kim stops by on his road trip from Mississippi to LA to talk to me and guest host Leon Loucheur about his up coming show and mural project at NOH/WAVE. We also talk about Grad school, the horror film his paintings pulled reference from for the upcoming show. Then we talk about techniques he uses to get his unique take of art, his regrets on not investing in bitcoin, And trying to put himself back into the mindset of his 11 year old self, right before the dark bruting art stage… then we talk a little shit about a few OG abstract guys!

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#15: The Wandering Eye Of A Whispering Soul

Sergio and Josh recap their boozy night before talking about working on their upcoming shows. All sorts of random stuff gets talked about, such as framing, Bam Bam Bigelow, nuclear holocaust, dad jokes, dark comedies, not jotting down ideas, and people listening to our podcast. Sergio fails miserably at trying to get Josh to read The Art Spirit by Robert Henri. We trash a bunch of annoying things before we limp to the finish line. Uber epic episode. Stayeth woketh, bros.

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#14: Emilio Villalba “Sounding Cheesy”

Fresh off the heels of his Booth Gallery in NYC show, Emilio Villalba invites us to his home and studio to talk about how he titles his paintings, the eyeballs he paints, how his environment influences his work, going from animation in LA to painting in SF, music, teaching, how Mark Tennant changed his life, his journey to see Velasquez and a few other things before we get into his painting in progress, “Mother and Child” that he graciously allowed us to share with you. We discuss why Picasso and Willem de Kooning were great(clutch your pearls, realists!) and speculate on who will be remembered from our time. We wrap it up by talking about album cover art. It’s obvious how thoughtful he is about his craft. If you’re a painter of any sort, you’ll really enjoy this one.

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“The Blind Cat”
Mark Tennant
Mark Tennant

Manet
Picasso’s “Guernica”
Lucian Freud
Frank Stella
Diebenkorn
Basquiat
Alex Kanevsky American/Lithuanian painter

#13: Aaron Nagel “Dragon Mannequins”

Aaron Nagel tells about his musical beginnings and how he started painting in oils, how he works with models, his new series of paintings with cloth, fitness, long-ass audiobooks and his “love” of the fantasy genre. We talk about his “Signal To Noise” paintings and talk about narrative paintings, his fascination with form, and face tattoos. We talk about the EGO Act, get super depressed about the current administration, then talk about commissions. We talk some more about working with models and getting reference, then Josh goes off on a tangent but brings it back! We talk about supplemental income, teaching, painting on dibond and his FedEx debacle. We finish by answering listener questions, such as, what are galleries good for these days? Catch him at Abend Gallery in June!

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