We start off by talking about how to not do soul-sucking commissions and Josh asks Sergio a potentially friendship-ending question (17:40) before we get into what everyone is here to listen for: the recent video featuring Josh and MJ’s art without their permission! (20:00) Josh talks about why he deleted the story on his IG where he first announced this(38.37), what the response was to the video takedown by the offender, and why they were against the mural in the first place! They also talk about the Stone Sparrow Gallery show (1:07:10) and the new direction that MJ wants to go with her next body of work. Sergio talks about where he is at with putting together his gouache course (1:28:40) before we talk about the TV shows The Mandalorian, Fargo season 4, and Kingdom. We end with MJ talking about some interesting payment innovations in the gallery world. Get some merch from Josh at www.joshualawyer.com/shop!
Our first guest in the quarantine! Fan favorite Monty Guy talks to us about life in the Arizona desert, lack of motivation, The Chappelle Show being sold to Netflix, the cost of living, flags and borders, the deterioration of the Bay Area, embracing the outlaw, thoughts on the gallery role in the future, haggling and discounts(Josh gives a hot tip!), and a whole lot more.
On today’s mini episode, we discuss the pros and cons of the pursuit of perfectionism at the expense of profitability. We also discuss the existence of squid people in our government.
Sergio is joining the faculty at Sentient Academy! We talk about how teaching can be thought of like an artist, why artists shouldn’t self-deprecate, Josh’s feelings about his work after finishing the paintings for the Stone Sparrow Gallery show, scientists splicing human genes into monkey brains, the pressure of the first page of the sketchbook, and more. Is Josh an optimistic nihilist? Would any artist be invited to the locker room if their favorite team won the Super Bowl? Is art fame the best kind of fame? All these questions answered on this week’s episode of Waiting To Dry!
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We answer the listener question, F— Marry Kill: Van Gogh, Picasso, and Pollack! It morphs into Pollack, Koons, and Hirst. We also discuss an article about the muralist Nychos getting a mural in Glendale taken down, and the stupid reasons that a mural can be taken away from the public space. We touch on the aftermath of the attempt to get Josh’s Roseland mural taken down, and the consequences of cancel-culture on art. A classic WTD Rant Corner! Look out for Josh and MJ’s show later this month at Stone Sparrow Gallery in New York City!
Sergio talks about his course and being in teaching-mode and how that affects his painting. Josh talks about nearing the finish line of the work for his upcoming show in November. We answer a ton of your listener questions this week too!
Some of the questions answered:
(23:35) Do you make 5-year plans or just go with the flow?
(38:42) Do birds have fun?
(45:43) What’s a subject matter you dislike painting?
(51:05) What is most fun in your process?
(1:03:15) Is there a reason to what seems like you solely using women as subjects in your work?
(1:18:05) Do you have favorite easy foods to make while painting?
(1:27:48) Having this platform, do you ever worry about getting canceled in this cancel-culture world?
(1:37:20) Why doesn’t Josh start his own pencil company and make millions?
(1:43:11) Do you ever have the urge to put all of your creative energy into one style or body of work?
(1:51:12) How did you realize that you can make a living off of your art? How did you start?
(2:03:00) How do you stay motivated while doing the busy work admin part of being an artist?
We also rip on the documentary, “The Price Of Everything” and praise Jeffrey Catherine Jones’s documentary “Better Things.”
Sign up for any of Sergio’s three workshops at www.themainloop.com!
We talk about drama surrounding Sergio and Vanessa’s food podcast A Bit Saucy and how painting is like making grilled cheeses, handling useless feedback, hating flies, avoiding comfort and boredom in your work, working through bad ideas, mural ideas vs. canvas ideas, and we revisit The Rock’s performance in the 2001 classic, The Mummy Returns! Check out Sergio’s upcoming workshops at https://bit.ly/AOC2020Sergio, or sign up to beta-test his course at www.themainloop.com!
On this week’s episode we discuss artists who feel entitled to a foot in the door, versus artists who have the confidence to create their own opportunities. What about false confidence, or losing confidence as you gain skills? Also what’s the difference between Wayne Thiebaud and Tim Tebow? Is there one? All this and more! Rate and review us on Apple Podcasts if you got a minute.
Sergio recaps his experience doing the STRADA Easel 30-day painting challenge. Josh recaps being MJ’s mural assistant for the month of September. We discuss evolving for speed and efficiency vs falling back on what works, the Pow Wow Art Festival in Lancaster, problem solving on a wall vs pre-planning, needing room to grow narrative skills, hanging out with other artists, Wide Open Walls in Sacramento, knowing the worth of your name, dealing with the environment while muralling, people having opinions on your mural to your face, painting fruit, applying for opportunities, and a few thoughts on comfort. Check out Sergio’s new painting for the Supersonic Art Show at www.spoke-art.com, and apply for his beta course at https://bit.ly/ECRMethodBetaTestApplication.
Do some artists fall back on their technical skills to ignore the necessary marketing and sales work in their goal of making it? That’s what we tackle on this week’s minisode! Some actual tips and tricks tucked away in this episode(don’t say we never helped ya) so if you’re beginning your art career, this is one you want to check out!