Josh and Sergio ramble about the Super Bowl, Sergio gives an update on the gouache course and a sketch box he built, and they discuss a Youtube video they watched about business for artists. They talk about what they got out of the video such as how your personality relates to your natural salesmanship, limiting beliefs around making money, being a “sell-out,” learning pricing from selling merch, and competing with dead artists for market share. We end by discussing how “art means what you want it to mean” is a cop-out.
Sergio is joining the faculty at Sentient Academy! We talk about how teaching can be thought of like an artist, why artists shouldn’t self-deprecate, Josh’s feelings about his work after finishing the paintings for the Stone Sparrow Gallery show, scientists splicing human genes into monkey brains, the pressure of the first page of the sketchbook, and more. Is Josh an optimistic nihilist? Would any artist be invited to the locker room if their favorite team won the Super Bowl? Is art fame the best kind of fame? All these questions answered on this week’s episode of Waiting To Dry!
Sergio talks about his course and being in teaching-mode and how that affects his painting. Josh talks about nearing the finish line of the work for his upcoming show in November. We answer a ton of your listener questions this week too!
Some of the questions answered:
(23:35) Do you make 5-year plans or just go with the flow?
(38:42) Do birds have fun?
(45:43) What’s a subject matter you dislike painting?
(51:05) What is most fun in your process?
(1:03:15) Is there a reason to what seems like you solely using women as subjects in your work?
(1:18:05) Do you have favorite easy foods to make while painting?
(1:27:48) Having this platform, do you ever worry about getting canceled in this cancel-culture world?
(1:37:20) Why doesn’t Josh start his own pencil company and make millions?
(1:43:11) Do you ever have the urge to put all of your creative energy into one style or body of work?
(1:51:12) How did you realize that you can make a living off of your art? How did you start?
(2:03:00) How do you stay motivated while doing the busy work admin part of being an artist?
We also rip on the documentary, “The Price Of Everything” and praise Jeffrey Catherine Jones’s documentary “Better Things.”
Sign up for any of Sergio’s three workshops at www.themainloop.com!
We talk about drama surrounding Sergio and Vanessa’s food podcast A Bit Saucy and how painting is like making grilled cheeses, handling useless feedback, hating flies, avoiding comfort and boredom in your work, working through bad ideas, mural ideas vs. canvas ideas, and we revisit The Rock’s performance in the 2001 classic, The Mummy Returns! Check out Sergio’s upcoming workshops at https://bit.ly/AOC2020Sergio, or sign up to beta-test his course at www.themainloop.com!
On this week’s episode we discuss artists who feel entitled to a foot in the door, versus artists who have the confidence to create their own opportunities. What about false confidence, or losing confidence as you gain skills? Also what’s the difference between Wayne Thiebaud and Tim Tebow? Is there one? All this and more! Rate and review us on Apple Podcasts if you got a minute.
For the quarantine, we decided to do something different: we are each hosting an episode with our significant others! First up is Sergio co-hosting with Vanessa Walsh. They talk about Vanessa moving into Sergio’s studio, Sergio working on his plein air painting course, someone causing drama with Sergio at Vanessa’s art show, their new restaurant review podcast, the impact of the quarantine on the art world, Heather Martin’s Art Refuge Facebook group, and perform WTD Audio Theatre! So much more discussed on this episode. Subscribe, rate and review where you find your podcasts.
The bad boyz of art podcasting are back! We talk about why most art podcasts are bad, Sergio talks about his San Diego trip and the horror of party brunches, cooking as a metaphor for art, Josh’s art party from Saturday, clarifying Sergio’s work ethic, Josh’s art trade show idea, being turned off by style in art, Josh’s heroics, answer a listener question about mural pricing, Josh’s altercation with a tweaker, and more.
Check out Sergio’s new painting at Modern Eden Gallery March 7th 2020.
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Josh and Sergio sit down together to talk about the fun of new relationships, another Sonoma County fire, podcasts they like, differences in how they build narratives, looking for more from models, the challenges of working on murals together, artist processes that make no sense, changes in Sergio’s career direction, middle names, Shia LeBouf, trolling and more. Find Sergio’s paintings at Beyond Eden Art Fair in Anaheim, November 22-24, and Context Miami art fair December 3rd-8th.
Another solo ep! We talked about the snafu that was before the recording of episode 86, getting into daily painting, Serge Gay Jr.‘s and Jose Luis Cena‘s SF solo shows, Josh’s piece titled “Send Your Son To Die,” if paintings gain value by changing hands, going all-in as a professional artist, Alec Monopoly, and answer some listener questions:
Is it worth starting a Youtube page?
What did we think of each other when we first met?
Which artist brain would we step into for a day?
Check out Josh’s newest paintings at Stone Sparrow Gallery in NYC, and Palette Gallery in San Francisco. Check out Sergio’s coaster drawings at Nucleus Portland and upcoming paintings at Beyond Eden Art Fair in Anaheim and Context Art Miami.
This episode is sponsored by Trekell Professional Art Supplies! Go to www.trekell.com, use the code “WTD10” and enjoy 10% off of your order of brushes, panels and apparel!
Sergio and Josh recap their 4th of July weekend, compare “Midsommar” to “Hereditary,” what they would do with time machines, what the SFMoMA got from selling a Rothko, people who hate Renoir, an SF high school mural that is going to be painted over, avoiding speed bumps in business, come up with a brilliant art theme show concept, and discuss if artists need to struggle to create great art. Pray to the Google Gods for Sergio’s swift recovery.